Oh wow. And Troile of course. In Dread Names, his embrace is given as 1300 BCE, which makes him older than anyone else mentioned in Children of the Revolution by about 700 years. Think Saulot in human form. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Are there Methuselahs that precede the Flood (though wouldn't that technically make them Antedelluvians even though they are 4th gen or higher since they predate the flood?). The Assamite Izhim ur-Baal is probably the next candidate. I'm sure there are others, buy those are the ones who come to mind. Its stated in the red death trilogy, which is not considered canon. Na, he's actually a Salubri, one of the sane elders who didn't go all 'soul drain' stupid. Lung almost certainly would be enough in the know as a red pole to bow the fuck out when it comes to the cainites... also I just realized that in this universe Old Salty Crab is probably an actual Shaman. If you want to go with Time of Judgment, you could infer that it takes at least 3 really and old 4th gens to have chance to contain an ante at its weakest. It's not nearly enough to beat it though. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Parahumans must be driving the garou nuts. JavaScript is disabled. Is there a date ever given for when the flood took place? Maybe I missed or noticed it but what generation is Danny and how old is he? ), Abraxes, Nuckalavee, Gorgo, Echidna, Azazel, Melachoate, The Matriarch, ? Exalted, the Chronicles of Darkness, and the World of Darkness copyright White Wolf Entertainment AB. In that case, I don't think preposterous to say that if Samiel had a few extra 4th gen of comparable power with him, he could have survived and hunt down Tzimisce childer before the Ante managed to resurrect with all his power, V20 says that one Nictuku was killed by a mage. A Conclave of Kindred, A Convolution of Fae. (Apologize to Luna wolf if you are going to use them). All times are GMT-5. However she was killed in Nights of Prophecy during the "To Grandmother's House" scenario. Methuselahs are generally weaker and we can assume the antes are weaker aswell. That would make Absimiliard embraced before 12000BC. Copyright Onyx Path Publishing LLC and individual users. It was said the vampire that killed Baba Yaga was twice her age. And even without that hindrance, the 3rd gen have more experience to feed into abilities. Sire of Yima, Vasilisa (-12000 ? come close to a Antediluvian in raw power? Yorak and the Dracon for the Tzimice I believe. If you're talking specifically about vampires mentioned in V20 books, the Ventrue Kementiri is the oldest one I can find mentioned by name. In the meantime we get the birth of historical civilization. Bekijk meer video’s van vtmnieuws op nieuws.vtm.be Ανάμεσα στις βασιλικές οικογένειες ήταν ο πρώην Μεγάλος Δούκας του Λουξεμβούργου Ιωάννης, χήρος της αδελφής των πρώην βασιλέων Μποντουέν και Αλβέρτου και ο νυν Μεγάλος Δούκας Ερρίκος. The creature was also said to have transcended disciplines. Vasilisa is one of the oldest Niktuku and Absimiliard started embracing them to help with the uprising against the second generation. - Duration: 6:13. According to the wiki, he was embaced The night when the stones spoke and the skies cried a blood rain. : An Abomination, if you manages to catch his ire you are shit out of luck. I'd add that there are so many characters and plots going on in VtM, ... some time. : likely the scariest Kindred not an Antediluvian, was shit your pants scary even as a mortal child a very long time ago. A community for fans of White Wolf's roleplaying games, notably the World of Darkness (Vampire: The Masquerade, Werewolf: The Apocalypse, Mage: The Ascension, etc. Pros : Is lazy and resting. They're probably also mindless killing machines, but one together enough to talk might not be unreasonable. How do you fight the earth or the abyss? Arn't Dhampirs really shitty in VTM but then again if Danny is Cain he can probably just boost Taylor if he wanted. Going to be honest kind of hard to see how Taylor would be a threat to anti's unless the anti was suicidal and wanting to die, but I get the rest of your point. Well heres a couple of names to run away screaming from if you get the chance. Attested by both the clanbook and that thing's apocryphal origin. The vampire that killed her, a Nicktuku named Vasilisa, is probably older than Baba Yaga, but I don't recall a concrete date ever given. Fear, Frenzy, Wolves and a resurrection of Force. 4th gens can't reach the power 3rd gens can. Like any smart PC group, a 4th gen could beat a 3rd. Though any number of the big name Methuselahs make sens. Cause otherwise it would be very hard to have a death match lol. I would say keep Taylor from being embraced it could make her an interesting normal view at the heart of Jyhad. He could guide her to Golcanda like the Salubri. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the WhiteWolfRPG community. This page was generated at 05:35 AM. What's the consensus here, do second city Methuselah's like Nergal, Ur-Shulgi, Baba Yaga, Vasilisa etc. With the consumption and absorption of the Typhonian Beast, I can't imagine anything comparing to him physically. I don't have the full details. As far as "canon" goes (and these days it doesn't mean much at all) 3rd gens are exponentialy more powerful than 4th gens. Dont know how "up to date" but this might help a little.. and Baba Yaga (-5000). Her embrace is given as 5000 BCE in the original World of Darkness book, which makes her 7000 years old. The oldest Methuselahs would be of the Second City era, nominally in both fact and generation terms.
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